3rd life meeting 2.0

• 3rd life group is honored to invite you to its 4th March meeting under the topic: Virtual Shyness!
• Second Life as a Cultural Exchange Platform's second meeting will concern this topic:
• " Why are we shy to tell people in real life what we learn about others in Second Life? "
• It is another way to see and explore our Second Life, and to talk while we dance with DJ background music by Whitney Vega at Bibi Cafe at 6pm - 7pm SLT.
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The following is the transcript, posted by Sidda, from this meeting:
[18:11] Ahmad Hosho: Welcome everyone to our 3rd life meeting!
[18:11] Ahmad Hosho: and we have a very nice topic today
[18:12] Ahmad Hosho runs topic: Second Life as a Cultural Exchange Platform's second meeting will concern this topic: " Why are we shy to tell people in real life
[18:13] Ahmad Hosho: When we asked people in latest meeting if they felt shy to explain what they learned about other cultres in Second Life, they adimited they were at times?
[18:13] You: do yall tell people you know that you come on SL? i dont lol
[18:13] Emmily Cortes: i do
[18:14] Mollie Serevi: I do but selectively
[18:14] Ahmad Hosho: so: What does secondlife look like to your society? Is it merely a sex place? Is it a money- making place? A Playground?
[18:14] Emmily Cortes: most of my friends play SL
[18:14] Mollie Serevi: and explain my reasons for coming here
[18:14] Thurgood Collas: peoples who havent experienced SL have a hard time conceiving of it
[18:14] You: i have told a couple but i dont generally
[18:14] You: all well that is diff emmily.....people i know dont understand it
[18:14] Ahmad Hosho: hello gracie, please have a seat :)
[18:14] Ahmad Hosho: all ur friends emmily are high tech, no?
[18:15] Thurgood Collas: some smile patronizingly and ask a questio or to then move on to the next subject
[18:15] Emmily Cortes: yes but i also talk openly about sl to anyone interested in comment
[18:15] You: hahaha yes thur
[18:15] Mollie Serevi: people I know only hear the worst about SL
[18:15] You: yes i would too if anyone wanted to hear info about it
[18:15] You: but the few that know of it ehar only of sex or gambling
[18:15] You: which gambling is gone
[18:15] Emmily Cortes: what is the worst to hear about SL?
[18:15] Mollie Serevi: right Sidda
[18:16] Gracie Price: or the CSI episode and think people come here and then get their throat slit *rolls eyes*
[18:16] Emmily Cortes: lol
[18:16] You: sex in sl...children roleplay...those are negatives people have heard
[18:17] Mollie Serevi: along with rl issues with sl
[18:17] You: i dont find anything here disturbing...however i am not interested in roleplaying as a child
[18:17] Mollie Serevi: as in marriages being desroyed
[18:17] You: yes molls but that can happen in mere chat
[18:17] Mollie Serevi: true
[18:17] Gracie Price: I'm not necessarily shy about talking SL...but people do look at me funny :-)
[18:17] You: yeah they do
[18:17] Mollie Serevi: and the kiddie thing is icky to me
[18:17] Ahmad Hosho: sidda: how u mean?
[18:17] Gracie Price: but that happens anyway
[18:17] You: mean what ahmad
[18:17] Gracie Price: :-)
[18:18] Ahmad Hosho: this happens in normal chat
[18:18] Emmily Cortes: sex pornography and marriages being destroyed in my opinion the issues were and are already present in RL
[18:18] Ahmad Hosho: u said something like that
[18:18] You: i agree with emmily
[18:18] You: that is what i meant
[18:18] Emmily Cortes: to blame SL for them is just a shift in blame
[18:18] Ahmad Hosho: good point emm
[18:18] You: not just sl on that issue
[18:18] You: yes
[18:18] Mollie Serevi: I must be the innocent around here
[18:18] Emmily Cortes: a major fault of not taking responsibility in the human race
[18:18] Eaton Honi: me too Mollie
[18:18] Eaton Honi: lol
[18:19] Ahmad Hosho: but emmily, we have do admit many couples has lost their wives, husbands in SL
[18:19] Gracie Price: no...Sidda is the completely innocent one ;-)
[18:19] Mollie Serevi: :) thanks Eaton...
[18:19] Ahmad Hosho: for a virtual relation
[18:19] Gracie Price: grins
[18:19] You: she is just saying that sl is not to blame for that....chat rooms and rl as well
[18:19] Emmily Cortes: but surely their problems were present long before the started to play sl
[18:19] Mollie Serevi: ok
[18:19] You: have done that..
[18:19] You: yes
[18:20] Emmily Cortes: a perfectly happy married person does not just come into a virtual world and through their rl away
[18:20] Eaton Honi: but marriages are also destroyed on MSN... i think that is waht SIdda meant about "mere chat"
[18:20] Mollie Serevi: yes that's a whole other topic
[18:20] You: yes
[18:20] Emmily Cortes: the problems must exist before
[18:20] You: yes eaton other venues not sl
[18:20] Ahmad Hosho keeps the current topic running: What does secondlife look like to your society? Is it merely a sex place? Is it a money- making place? A Playground?
[18:20] Emmily Cortes: you did not stand on my tail so all good here :)
[18:20] You: lol
[18:21] Mollie Serevi: for me it's a playground... got fairy wings the other day
[18:21] Mollie Serevi: :)
[18:21] You: i say all of the above for diff people...for me a playground
[18:21] Emmily Cortes: for me its a playground also and a place to meet people from all over the world
[18:21] Ahmad Hosho: we ask about ur socitey
[18:21] Thurgood Collas: I rememeber years ago
[18:21] You: exactly for me em
[18:21] Mollie Serevi: yes Emmily
[18:21] Ahmad Hosho: how ur socitey sees u if u say: i play or i communicate in SL.
[18:22] Gracie Price: for me...definitely a playground and somewhere to meet new people...and I've introduced friends to SL...who simply didn't get it...would rather go to myspace or facebook
[18:22] Mollie Serevi: I am very careful about what I say to whom about SL
[18:22] Ahmad Hosho pokes whit: a request: consider chopin a little please may be? :)
[18:22] Emmily Cortes: in many ways (and this has been my comments in the past) sl is just a glorified MSN
[18:22] Thurgood Collas: how people responded to Star Trek fans or players of the game Dungeons and Dragons, like it was something odd and well those people are just strange and out of it, in terms of the Real World
[18:22] Emmily Cortes: a way of communication
[18:22] You: with dolls
[18:22] Tanya Rubble: I don't mention SL to many people
[18:22] Emmily Cortes: yes sidda
[18:22] Tanya Rubble: Most don't get it
[18:23] Ahmad Hosho: well
[18:23] Emmily Cortes: i talk my friends into sl
[18:23] Ahmad Hosho: SL is not famouse here acutally
[18:23] Mollie Serevi: Emm... my friends would never consider it
[18:23] Ahmad Hosho: but for those who spoke about it, they have taken it very seriouse
[18:23] Emmily Cortes: uneducated opinions i care not for so i talk them into trying it before making judgements
[18:24] Emmily Cortes: the negative opinions placed by the uneducated are a fantastic insite to their own happiness in my opinion
[18:24] Ahmad Hosho: we found with a company we deal with, that we know an egyptian engineer studied virtual worlds from some time, may be 2 years? and he built in SL an egyptian tomb and hided it
[18:24] Gracie Price: as far as the people that you've talking into trying SL...have they stuck around and enjoyed it?
[18:24] You: why hide it?
[18:24] Ahmad Hosho: the information i got about it was like: virtual world as a high techology
[18:24] Ahmad Hosho: sidda: he was just applying his studies
[18:25] Emmily Cortes: people that dont like sl should focus on world piece as we have more piece in this virtual world then any rl
[18:25] Emmily Cortes: i think people could learn alot from sl
[18:25] Ahmad Hosho: sidda: he applied the technical part, but he didnt use it as a communication tool.
[18:25] Ahmad Hosho: they think it is better left for visual communcation experts to design the communication tools correctly
[18:25] Ahmad Hosho: at least for egypt
[18:25] You: yes that is a good point....i have learned so much from other cultures and as i was saying before......when i think of the friends i have made from those countries...i think of them and their culture with affection now rather than just being ignorant of them
[18:26] Emmily Cortes: exactly sidda
[18:26] Thurgood Collas: nods
[18:26] Mollie Serevi: I agree Sidda
[18:26] Gracie Price smiles
[18:26] Ahmad Hosho: yes but still
[18:26] You: it is an excellent tool for learning about one another in a fun setting
[18:26] Tanya Rubble: I agree
[18:26] Ahmad Hosho: when i speak about my american professor in USA who i know in SL, someone answeres that doesnt count :P
[18:26] Mollie Serevi: ? really?
[18:26] Ahmad Hosho: it is not accurate information, may be he is a 12 years old kid playing with some avatar
[18:27] Mollie Serevi: *eyeroll* as if you wouldn't know
[18:27] Ahmad Hosho: yes i hear things like that when i telll information from SL. from some people
[18:27] Ahmad Hosho: but not all.
[18:27] You: in fact...when i first tried the internet years back i was so excited that i had a window on the world...but chat rooms left me cold because all they talked about were mundane topics or sex
[18:27] Emmily Cortes: so with then this person would discredit a email too? could be a 12 year old sending it
[18:27] You: but when i found SL...things were diff
[18:27] Gracie Price: well your friends don't give you credit for being able to discern the difference b/t a 12 year and someone educated?
[18:27] Mollie Serevi: omg Sidda my first chatroom was Parents R Us on AOL
[18:27] Ahmad Hosho: well, they are a lot.
[18:27] Emmily Cortes: sl accounts are harder to crack than any email account
[18:28] You: well we all know one must be careful on the net but that does not mean it cannot be takn seriously
[18:28] Ahmad Hosho: and to be honest.. yes many people are lying behind their avatars.
[18:28] Mollie Serevi: oh god yes Ahmad
[18:28] Emmily Cortes: oh many hosho indeed
[18:28] Mollie Serevi: first hand knowledge there
[18:28] You: indeed yes but u cannot distrust everyone
[18:28] Emmily Cortes: i am the same person in rl as sl by character
[18:28] Ahmad Hosho: take an example, a girl i know.. i found hera man later .. lol
[18:28] Mollie Serevi: no I trust before I distrust
[18:28] Emmily Cortes: but i have met many that are not
[18:28] You: as am i em....
[18:28] Ahmad Hosho: i told that already
[18:29] Mollie Serevi: lol Ahmad
[18:29] Ahmad Hosho: oh this memory kills me
[18:29] Gracie Price: well certainly they are...but you get to know people and who is honest or not...they reveal themselves whether they mean to or not
[18:29] Ahmad Hosho: Gracie, yes .. oh well
[18:29] Emmily Cortes: lol hosho stats read that 40% of female avs are in fact actually driven by men
[18:29] You: lolol
[18:29] Gracie Price: hehe
[18:29] Ahmad Hosho: yes and i met a trans gendered
[18:29] Mollie Serevi: yey well I'm the real deal
[18:29] Thurgood Collas: smiles at Mollie
[18:29] Tanya Rubble: HI Zyanede
[18:29] Ahmad Hosho: met 2 of them so far
[18:29] Emmily Cortes: i have known 8 female friends that are actually men
[18:30] Tanya Rubble: me too!
[18:30] Emmily Cortes: but they are open about it
[18:30] Ahmad Hosho: good point emmily
[18:30] Eaton Honi: thats disturbing
[18:30] You: yes i have a female friend that is a guy and he is very open even states it on his profile
[18:30] Ahmad Hosho: yes i have met 2
[18:30] Ahmad Hosho: not talking about those
[18:30] Ahmad Hosho: i talk about who is not open :)
[18:30] You: right
[18:30] Mollie Serevi: I have a friend with a female avi... but he's the exception
[18:30] Ahmad Hosho: or like many kids entering SL and play as adults.
[18:31] Thurgood Collas: i had posted an article about SL: Quakers in SL on the bulletin board n my real life Quaker Meeting
[18:31] Emmily Cortes: practice safe sl sex does not mean wearing a condom it means being sure of the sex and age of your partner
[18:31] Thurgood Collas: and I sometimes mentioned it and refered to it.
[18:31] Mollie Serevi: oooh Emmily
[18:31] Gracie Price laughs at Emmily :-)
[18:31] You: what do they think of it thurgood
[18:31] Thurgood Collas: it was up for about 6 months. SOmeone recently took it down.
[18:31] Emmily Cortes: well its true
[18:31] You: did anyone try?
[18:31] Emmily Cortes: i do not use sl for sex at all tho
[18:31] Thurgood Collas: I go to Quaker Meeting in SL on Saturday sometimes, and on Sunday in RL most Sundays
[18:32] Ahmad Hosho: please dont forget to tip our life orchestra dj: whitney vegas.
[18:32] Ahmad Hosho: thurgood, can we have a link to ur article?
[18:32] Whitney Vega's Tipping Pic: Thanks for the tip!
[18:32] Thurgood Collas: no one joined SL and told me they did
[18:32] Emmily Cortes: for me is meeting and making friends, music and combat
[18:32] Thurgood Collas: and I din tel the name of my avatar
[18:32] Whitney Vega gives a big thanks to Sidda for the tip
[18:32] Thurgood Collas: though I would have if anyone had asked.
[18:32] Ahmad Hosho pets on emm head
[18:32] Ahmad Hosho: good girl
[18:32] You: wink
[18:32] Emmily Cortes: Rawr
[18:32] You: lol
[18:33] Gracie Price: how come you didn't tell the name of your AVI?
[18:33] You: <<<>>>
[18:33] Ahmad Hosho tells the next topic: How do you think the Lindens want Second Life to appear to the media? Is SL promoted differently to the public than they intend? How so? Linden Lab also promotes SL as a business op for many.
[18:33] You: he did tell
[18:33] Gracie Price: oops...GP re-reads the log :-)
[18:33] Ahmad Hosho: [18:33] Gracie Price: how come you didn't tell the name of your AVI? because it is written over my head? :)
[18:33] You: he typoed
[18:33] You: lol
[18:33] Thurgood Collas: I would have done that oneoon one , Gracie
[18:34] You: in RL ahmad
[18:34] Raven Bechir is Offline
[18:34] Gracie Price gives Ahmad the look...smartass :-)
[18:34] You: so ur friends at church are polite but change the subject thur? lol
[18:34] Thurgood Collas: but no body was that interested , UNLESS they are actully on SL anonymously and sitting next to me in RL in Meeting
[18:34] Ahmad Hosho: ;)
[18:34] You: lol thur
[18:35] Tanya Rubble: but they wouldn't admit that, thur
[18:35] Emmily Cortes: i believe sl is a possible business opportunity but not to survive on in rl
[18:35] Thurgood Collas: some might
[18:35] Tanya Rubble: I agree Emmily
[18:35] Ahmad Hosho: so u agree of SL as a big business box?
[18:35] Pablo Quintus is Offline
[18:35] You: sure ahmad why not
[18:35] You: more than that of course but sure
[18:35] Emmily Cortes: you will not buy a house on a city river on sl income
[18:35] Thurgood Collas: I have met people at Quaker events who I know in SL
[18:35] Tanya Rubble: It has potential, just the the internet in the beginning
[18:35] Thurgood Collas: and they are not that different in SL and RL
[18:35] You: yes i have met several people in RL from SL
[18:36] Emmily Cortes: yes me also
[18:36] Tanya Rubble: I guess I'm too new
[18:36] You: meeting a friend from Poland this summer
[18:36] Tanya Rubble: I can't imagine meeting someone in RL from SL
[18:36] Emmily Cortes: oh its great
[18:36] Gracie Price: why not Tanya?
[18:36] You: oh its fun....we are just like our avatars lolol
[18:36] Thurgood Collas: I think I would be more reluctant to have other SL spheres of activity overlap between Sl and RL, the Quaker things is distinct
[18:36] Emmily Cortes: yes sidda
[18:36] Emmily Cortes: thats so right
[18:36] You: lol yes
[18:36] Tanya Rubble: like I said, maybe I'm too new
[18:36] Emmily Cortes: if you choose the right friends
[18:36] Whitney Vega jumps in the conversation, I met my rl fiance here in sl lol
[18:37] Pablo Quintus is Online
[18:37] Gracie Price: `*~*`WooT WooT`*~*`
[18:37] Tanya Rubble: I guess I don't know anyone well enough yet
[18:37] You: whit :):)
[18:37] Emmily Cortes: thats great whitney
[18:37] Ahmad Hosho: oh i thought i am open enough about my self lol
[18:37] Emmily Cortes: many marriages have formed in rl from sl meetings
[18:37] Eaton Honi: thats amazing Whit
[18:37] Ahmad Hosho: Ahmad.. owns a jeans pants in RL and SL
[18:37] Whitney Vega: =]
[18:37] Tanya Rubble: I would worry that they might have lied and misrepresented themselves
[18:37] You: lol ahmad
[18:37] Emmily Cortes: as is the same for world or warcraft and other virtual worlds
[18:38] Ahmad Hosho: emmily yes but wow is a game :) SL is not
[18:38] Gracie Price: well you don't just go from SL to RL...i think you work your way into it...to the phone...cam...etc
[18:38] Emmily Cortes: wow is not all game
[18:38] Ahmad Hosho: i hear people dies infront of WOW while they plays
[18:38] Tanya Rubble: yes, right, Gracie
[18:38] Whitney Vega: yes thats what we did Gracie
[18:38] You: its social too
[18:38] Emmily Cortes: i have many friends from wow and i play a similiar role in sl
[18:38] Ahmad Hosho: well u know better emmily ofcours
[18:38] Emmily Cortes: as you can see im not human in sl :)
[18:38] Ahmad Hosho: but still things are different here.
[18:38] You: great avi em
[18:39] Emmily Cortes: ty :)
[18:39] Ahmad Hosho: here there are formal embassies
[18:39] Emmily Cortes: yes hosho true
[18:39] Whitney Vega: we're going to lose music for a min.. my pc locked up
[18:39] Thurgood Collas: meow!
[18:39] Ahmad Hosho: it is something interestes the UN the most, if embassies are in SL, that means it is an exception.
[18:39] Emmily Cortes: Rawr
[18:39] You: lol
[18:39] Gracie Price: lol and NASA :-)
[18:40] Ahmad Hosho: well lets say an embassy of sweden in SL
[18:40] Ahmad Hosho: that means sweden tell: part of it's land is virtual.
[18:40] Ahmad Hosho: which means .. when u enter sweden sim, u are considered inside the sweden itself.
[18:40] You: that is interesting
[18:40] Emmily Cortes: correct
[18:40] Ahmad Hosho: sweden*
[18:41] You: great even
[18:41] Abel Halderman is Offline
[18:41] Emmily Cortes: each sim has its covenant so why should that not reflect a country
[18:41] Gracie Price: I believe the same is true of Tuscany...sponspored actually by Tuscana
[18:41] Ahmad Hosho: and in regards of that all international laws of this part will apply.
[18:41] Ahmad Hosho: Emmily that's how a government came inside a virtual world.
[18:41] Ahmad Hosho: applies too on Denmark and Poland.
[18:41] You: sorry eaton lol...was changin ao
[18:42] Gracie Price: hehe...i though you hopped in his lap :-)
[18:42] Ahmad Hosho: but what i am sure is Sweden has announced the first embassy for the country at 2007 in a virtual world.
[18:42] You: lol
[18:42] Mollie Serevi: I heard about Estonia today
[18:42] Emmily Cortes: yes but if you do not like this then isnt it just easy to not visit those sims rather than dissrespect their laws?
[18:42] Gracie Price: ooops
[18:43] Emmily Cortes: hehe Gracie
[18:43] Ahmad Hosho: Emmily, i dont say i dont like them, i say SL is different than WOW and other virtual worlds in certain things.
[18:43] Gracie Price takes her seat...
[18:43] Emmily Cortes: yes i agree that it is
[18:43] You: lol
[18:43] Ahmad Hosho: there is one reason to attract such places in here, to my own humble point of view: the old need of human to communicate.
[18:44] Gracie Price: well and to make money for LL
[18:44] Thurgood Collas: I agree Ahmad
[18:44] Emmily Cortes: yes i agree too
[18:44] Ahmad Hosho: Gracie, Danish people are paying their taxs in SL now.
[18:45] Ahmad Hosho: the danish people told that today at first meeting.
[18:45] You: i didnt know that ahmad
[18:45] You: i missed that
[18:45] Gracie Price: as long as they are bringing in the $$ paying the exhorbitant prices for a server to LL...they help us maintain our existence here too
[18:45] Emmily Cortes: how is this being declared hosho
[18:45] Emmily Cortes: how do they know how much they make to tax?
[18:46] Ahmad Hosho: Nizzy Lusch is the danish lady in the other meeting can answere ofcours, and kisso is working in the swedish embassy, i will bring u her full name.
[18:46] Ahmad Hosho: they would answere better than me :)
[18:46] Emmily Cortes: be very hard to define a taxable income in sl when under the single ip address one can create many alts that money could be shifted to
[18:47] Ahmad Hosho: verfied alt?
[18:47] Ahmad Hosho: ;)
[18:47] Emmily Cortes: if you earn sl income you can move it to another av
[18:47] Emmily Cortes: how would they accurately know how much to tax on sl earnings
[18:47] Ahmad Hosho: well i still dont know about the technial part, but if i were them, i will only accept money from verfied avatars.
[18:48] Ahmad Hosho: well, emmily, they pay their RL taxs in SL.
[18:48] Emmily Cortes: yes
[18:48] Gracie Price: several months ago...LL made it available so that you can use your virtual land as a tax write off...which i thought was hilarious (unless you are registered as a business...how is the gov't going to know who Gracie Price is)???
[18:48] Ahmad Hosho: and if they sell lindens, she told they pay another type of taxes.
[18:49] Emmily Cortes: right ok i did not know that
[18:49] Ahmad Hosho: well i still say: verfied accounts are telling lindens who u are.
[18:49] You: that is pretty interesting that paying taxes in sl
[18:49] Ahmad Hosho: verified*
[18:49] Ahmad Hosho: those who put a correct payment info.
[18:49] Gracie Price: LL might know...but the government?
[18:50] Ahmad Hosho: well, ofcours LL would tell who u are if it is working on a system.
[18:50] Emmily Cortes: every av can be verified tho through an ip address ? and key ?
[18:50] Ahmad Hosho: can't see u will be private from ur own government.
[18:50] Gracie Price: that would seem to be a violation of terms of service, no?
[18:50] Ahmad Hosho: emmily: through the payment information
[18:51] Gracie Price: i digress...i think we are wayyyy off topic now? what were we talking about?
[18:51] Emmily Cortes: lol
[18:51] You: ahmad next question?
[18:52] Ahmad Hosho: we are in topic, we talk about how lindens want Second life to appear to the media.
[18:52] Ahmad Hosho: discussing things like embassies, business, and taxs paid, gives some salt and pepper to the talk i guess.
[18:52] Emmily Cortes: brb im sorry phone
[18:53] Ahmad Hosho: cause it show some governments taking SL more seriosue that some socities
[18:53] Gracie Price: i think they certainly want to show off the glamourous...I made a million selling virtual land AVI like Ansche Chung and Pontiac girl, Callie Cline :-)
[18:54] Ahmad Hosho: lol nice point too.
[18:54] Ahmad Hosho tells the next topic: Why do most people in the first life tab say that Second Life is a game to them? Is it just a game to you? Why do you feel people have the inclination to define SL in their profiles as a game? Does RL define SL for us? How can we define SL for the public?
[18:54] Mollie Serevi: I don't know what you mean about "most people" Ahmad
[18:54] You: it can be a game if u choose...or not
[18:54] Tanya Rubble: I think it's a defense mechanism
[18:54] Tanya Rubble: a way to say, I don't want to talk about my RL with you
[18:54] Mollie Serevi: Ihaven't noticed that
[18:55] You: if u set ur own goals
[18:55] Gracie Price: SL is certainly not a game to me. My emotions are Gracie's emotions.
[18:55] You: same here gracie
[18:55] Tanya Rubble: I don't think they really mean it's a game, like other video games
[18:55] Ahmad Hosho: but why do u need to tell something like that?
[18:55] Mollie Serevi: me too Gracie
[18:55] Mollie Serevi: I don't Ahmad
[18:55] Mollie Serevi: SL is not a game for me
[18:55] Gracie Price: I have learned alot about myself from Gracie though...as far as defining who I am and articulating it
[18:56] Ahmad Hosho: not u particuallry mollie, i mean most people do any way :)
[18:56] Mollie Serevi: yes I know :)
[18:56] Thurgood Collas: Sl is not a game to me, though I sometimes meet avatars who think of it such
[18:56] You: how do they thur?
[18:56] Ahmad Hosho: i dont do too, but isnt interesting to redfine something we already supposed to know?
[18:56] Mollie Serevi: but I thougth your question was leading.... haven't noticed that eveyone says it's a game
[18:57] Ahmad Hosho: oh, i hope i am not the only one who noticed it ;)
[18:57] Mollie Serevi: might be interesting to survey
[18:57] You: i have seen lots of people ;s profiles say its only a game
[18:57] Gracie Price: I don't generally look at the first life tab...it's usually nonsense and nothing about the first life anyway
[18:57] Vivid Nikolaidis is Offline
[18:57] Ahmad Hosho: a poll in http://hosho.blogspot.com is running asking if SL is a game or not a game.
[18:58] Tanya Rubble: But if you are looking at the 1st life tab, you want to know something about thier first life
[18:58] Gracie Price grins at the shameless plug for his blog :-)
[18:58] Ahmad Hosho: 85% so far said it is not a game
[18:58] Tanya Rubble: and some don't want to share anything
[18:58] Ahmad Hosho: yes this is the point Tanya :)
[18:58] Mollie Serevi: less than 40 people though right?
[18:58] Ahmad Hosho: yes mollie :)
[18:58] Mollie Serevi: I have nothing on my first life tab right now but I have in the past
[18:58] Thurgood Collas: Susally neewbies of hours or days dureation, maybe thinknf of it like an online game with rules and competition
[18:58] Mollie Serevi: depends on my mood
[18:59] You: hello ohlooka
[18:59] Lauranne Theas is Offline
[18:59] Emmily Cortes: bk
[18:59] You: wb
[18:59] Emmily Cortes: ty :)
[18:59] Allenclive Beaumont is Offline
[18:59] Ahmad Hosho tells the next topic: Is virtual information accurate? That is, do you feel many things you see in SL are as they are in RL?
[18:59] You: as i said earlier today...sl is idealistic in lots of ways
[19:00] Gracie Price: as far as the environment or the interaction between others?
[19:00] Ahmad Hosho: all i guess.
[19:00] Emmily Cortes: Experts, however, have found most recently that feelings that people have online -- connections with other virtual characters, loss, friendship, and even love -- are in fact real emotions, and humans don't have the ability to switch off between what they feel on- and off-line. ~The Wall St. Journal~ About Second Life
[19:00] Tanya Rubble: I would say that is largely true
[19:01] Mollie Serevi: have to run... thanks everyone
[19:01] Ahmad Hosho: i discovered than from 2 years lol
[19:01] Thurgood Collas: that is very true Emily
[19:01] Tanya Rubble: my emotions are Tanya's
[19:01] Tanya Rubble: bye Mollie
[19:01] Ahmad Hosho: ok mollie bye :)
[19:01] Emmily Cortes: bye Mollie
[19:01] You: bye bye Molls :):)
[19:01] Eaton Honi: bye Mollie
[19:01] You: i totaly agree with that em yes
[19:01] You: totally even
[19:02] Emmily Cortes: yes i can not see how anyone could not
[19:02] Ahmad Hosho: well when someone dates a girl in SL, should it be a real date then? /me smiles inoccently
[19:02] You: what do u mean a real date
[19:02] Emmily Cortes: i value my online friendships as real as any rl friendships
[19:02] You: yes me too em
[19:02] Ahmad Hosho: like hmmm i donno
[19:02] You: sure i think its a real date
[19:02] Ahmad Hosho: a date, sidda, a date
[19:02] Emmily Cortes: hosho!
[19:03] You: if u both make plans to meet sure
[19:03] Ahmad Hosho: she asked
[19:03] Ahmad Hosho: lol
[19:03] Whitney Vega: Thank you so much Gracie
[19:03] Thurgood Collas: it is the same and not the same
[19:03] Gracie Price: lol...yes!!!
[19:03] Emmily Cortes: lol
[19:03] You: its ok emm ima pinch him
[19:03] Lance Lubezki is Online
[19:03] Gracie Price: YW Whitney
[19:03] Emmily Cortes: :)
[19:03] Ahmad Hosho: how so thur, cause it normally confuses me lol sorry
[19:03] Thurgood Collas: th e texting can make it more intense
[19:04] Thurgood Collas: in SL people might be less inhibited or guarded than on an RL date
[19:04] Tanya Rubble: I think I agree with you Thur
[19:04] Emmily Cortes: yes i agree too
[19:04] Tanya Rubble: I never thought about it that way
[19:04] Thurgood Collas: since they are in the comfort of their own home usually
[19:04] Thurgood Collas: some people have said to me
[19:04] You: and yes if i agree to spend time with someone in SL....i certainly take it serioulsy
[19:04] Tanya Rubble: but at the same time, we can be more open without fear
[19:04] Tanya Rubble: Me too, Sidda
[19:04] Ahmad Hosho: thur: yes, and dont have to work hard to look sharp too
[19:04] Gracie Price: but if you ask someone on a date...you should go on a date...to a live concert, to dancing, to a virtual dinner even
[19:04] Emmily Cortes: yes and for example i have several online friends that suffer from social phobia in rl
[19:04] Thurgood Collas: I havent talked like this with anyone since the dorms in collge
[19:05] You: lol ahmad
[19:05] You: rofl thur
[19:05] You: yes its very easy to get close
[19:05] Tanya Rubble: That is a good analogy, Thur
[19:05] You: for one thing we have the common thread of being on SL lolol
[19:05] Ahmad Hosho: well it is the same to me in RL or SL lol i am already a nut any way. but i just want to know if there is a different, so i can consider that in future
[19:05] You: yes u uare a nut
[19:05] You: we agree there
[19:05] Gracie Price laughs